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جمعه 13 مهر ماه 1386

پيوند به پايگاه پويشگران

پيوند به خانهء شکوه ميرزادگی

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هر چهارشنبه

نه و نيم صبح بوقت کاليفرنيا

از کانال «تصوير ايران» AFN

آرشيو

 

پيوند به صفحهء اصلی

پيوند به آرشيو جمعه گردی ها

پيوند به متن مقاله

پيوند به فايل صوتی با صدای نويسنده

 

نظريات خوانندگان مقالهء

«نسبت ما با احمدی نژاد چيست؟»

Well done for your most recent article. Hitherto no such article with such a clarity I came a cross in any of the Persian or Iranian media.  You are absolutely right and spot on in your analysis of the NON principled approach to our simple equation of between Islamic so called republic and its subjects both inside and out side Iran. The simple fact is that we as Iranian lacking a basic notion of understanding what we should be our legitimate right and what we should deserve as a human being. The approach of ignoring your national interest for international sake is an old Tudeh party policy which has long been ditched by a clear majority of sensible population; in particular the new generation of Iranian students and activist in Iran.

I am more and more convinced that our national identity need to be redefined or better defined of who we are.  The under laying thought, most accepted by all at least that is what it appears to be, a nation with various minorities with a defining Iranian PAST and not necessary a Sheia/Soni. I am so glad that Shia’s thinking is more and more a political force as it can distance itself from the current democracy movement inside Iran.  In contrary to the democracy movement (if you can call it) during the Shah the Shia thinking  was part of the movement.

Again, well done.

A.B

October 5, 2007

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جناب نوري علا

بسيار متشكريم از مقاله شما. بايد ياد آور بشيم كه سخنان گفته شده در دانشگاه اگر به پر قباي كسي برخورده مطمئن باشيد آن جنابان هم ساخته و پرداخته طويله جمهوري اسلامي ميباشند. اين چهارپايان نوظهور هركجا باشد بالاخره خصلت خودرا رو ميكنند؛ حتي اگر خود را در مبان مخالفين ملاها جا زده باشند. بهرحال تمامي الاغان ملا ها هستند كه 30 سال سواري به آنها داده اند به خرج مملكت و ملت شريف ما .

باز باعرض تشکر از شما استاد وطن پرست

گ.م.ی

پنجم اکتبر 2007

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آقاي نورى علاى عزيز
از كوششهاى شما سپاسگزارم٠ كاملا با شما موافقم و با شما همدلي ميكنم٠ نبود معيارهاي يونيورساليستي در ما نشان از عدم رشد اخلاقى ما دارد٠ ما فكر ميكنيم كه انسانهاى عادلى هستيم ولي نيستيم٠ شايد بد نبود كه ما كمي تيورى كولبرگ را جدى ميگرفتيم٠ آرزوي تندرستي براى شما دارم.

امضاء محفوظ ـ از هايدلبرگ آلمان

پنجم اکتبر 2007

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Finally someone had the gut to be unbiased and write free of blind and delusiona
patriotism. When for the time I heard Lee's lecture on TV, I was so exited that I
applauded him even though I was alone at home. The only thing I didn't like about
his lecture was that he called the leader of terrorist group ruling Iran, Mr. President!!!
However It's been a while I stopped checking Farsi websites, but for the nex few
days I checked them over and over, expecting lots of articles against petty
cruel dictator, I was so shocked when I saw writers are criticizing Lee!!!
I thought, well, they are the same as the terrorist government, but when I
talked to Iranians who live here in Western countries and noticed that the majority
criticize Lee, I came to this conclusion that Iranians deserve this government and
dictatorship so I'm ashamed of being Iranian and to be honest from now on,
I don't even care if U.S attacks Iran because I found Iranians are mostly cowards
and pro dictators.
Good luck trying to enlighten this coward nation.
Mehran
October 5, 2007

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روز به خیر آقای دکتر نوری علا خسته نباشید استاد

باز هم صدها درود بر تو ای اسماعیل نوری علا می دانی چرا ؟ چون اگه از شما سپاس گزاری نکنم خیلی خیلی  بی انصافیه . من الان دو ساله که هر وقت تونستم به اینترنت دسترسی پیدا کنم و برام مقدور شده که از دست فیلترینگ نجات پیدا کنم مقالات شما رو خوندم و دروغ نیست اگه بگم با هر مقاله شما جواب چندین پرسش خرخره جو را به منطقی ترین شکلی که تا به حال دیده ام دریافت کرده ام . خیلی دوست دارم برات بنویسم ولی نمی دونم حوصله داری نوشته های یه جوون 25 ساله مثل من رو بخونی یا نه .

احسان

13 مهر 1386

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Salam aghayeh nouri alla
Matlabetan mesleh hamisheh besiyar ali boud.man asameh siyasi nistam va
khodam ra anghadr vared beh masaeleh siyasi nemidanam vali hamib bardasht ra
az sokhanane reeiseh daneshgaheh kolombiya dashtam va beh gholeh shoma inha
keh goft kamtarin boud va az in taajob kardam chera kasi az iraniha dar aan
daneshghah baboud keh dardeh mara bazgo konad. va chera iranihayeh dar
tabeid intour beh rageh gheyrateshan barkhord.
Beh nazareh man in doustan avazeh inkeh negaraneh lashkar keshiyeh amrika
be iran bashand har rooz bayad dar keshvar hayeh mokhtalefeh jahan jeloyeh
sefarat khaneh hayeh iran dast beh tahason bezanan va beh donya begoyand
keh melateh ma beh donbaleh enerji hasteh ei nist balkeh bedonbaleh azadi va
zendegi bedoneh hokomateh eslami ast.
In dostan yadeshan rafteh keh agar keshvar haei mesleh chin.shoravi.etehadiyeh
uroup az in dilat hemayat mikonana barayeh manafeh moft va mosalami ast keh az
dolati sareh in hokomat mibarand.
Goftani besiyar ast va vaght besiyar tang.
Salam khedmateh hamsareh andishmandetan beresanod va begoueid keh az
eftekharateh keshvareh ma hastand hamchon shoma.
Beh omideh movafaghiyat va azadi mamlekateman.
Anahita
5 October 2007

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Dear Mr. Nooriala

I did read your this week article. And found it really honest and clean and admire your opinion. Unfortunately opportunism now is part of our very complex personality and after islamic revolution or coup or whatever this dirty movement is called, our personality is getting worse

long live Mr. Nooriala and wish to meet you in Toronto

Mohammad

October 5, 2007

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Jenabe Nooriala,
Az khandane nevshteh jenabeali lezat faravan bordam.
Ahmadinejad namayandeh ma Iranian nist keh agar tohini be vey beshavad
ma narahat shavim va be khod begirim.
Vey namayandeh yek mosht dozd va daghal be name ssenfe, be esstelah,
rouhani palid ast.
Ba arze sepas,
H. H.
Oslo – Norway
5 October 2007

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Ba droude fravan
Besiyar jaleb  boud.Az neveshteh shoma kamale tashakor ra daram.
Barayetan aresouye salami mikonam.Irane ma be mardani mesle shoma bish az
har zamane digari niyazmand hast.
Ba sepase faravan.
D. Hawaii
October 5, 2007

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Bravoo ,
Daghighan harfe deleman bood ,dirooz az saite gooya news gereftimash,dastetan
ra mifesharam va sarboland bashid,nemidanam scandinavi boodid ya na.
yadetan bashad agar amadid ma ra inja darid , zende bashid . 
ALI
October 5, 2007

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درود فراوان بر شما و اندیشه پاکتان
حيدر
7 اکتبر 2007

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زیبا بود. هر چند تلخ. و واقعیت بود هر چند ، دردناک. به امید روزی که ایران کنام
ایرانیان شود و نه بیگانگان و "عرب پرستان"
آذر
7 اکتبر 2007

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baa salaam va arze eraadat!
Jaanaa soxan az zabaane maa migoyi
dar arezoye faraagir shodane chenin negareshi
paayande bashi
majid - 16 mehr 1386

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Drood be ostad!

"nesbate ma ba Ahmadinejzad chist" ra chon hamyeh neveshtehaye shoma khandam. Dar varaye taleye "mobarezeye zede amrikaei" keh man ham ta 25 sale pish docharash boodam yek porsesh az shoma daram, Aya Ahmadinezjaad modele kocheki az Bosh nist. Va chera aghaye reise daneshgahe Kolomia in shebahaat ra agar hast nemibinad.  Aya process e entakhaabe pichidehtare Bosh keh mahsole yek roshde sanati va madanist tanha baraye poshandane in shebahaat kafist?

Doostdare shoma
M.B
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16 Mehr 1386

 

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با درود بر شما جناب نوری علا
مقاله شما را تحت عنوان «نسبت ما با احمدی نژاد چيست؟» خواندم و مایلم بعنوان یک ایرانی از شما بسیار بسیار سپاسگذاری کنم.
ایران و ایرانیان به شخصیت هایی مانند شما نیاز دارند که با علم، شرافت و بی پروایی خودشان حقیقت را آنطور که هست بدون طفره رفتن و لغلغه زبان بیان کنند. درود بر شما باد.
بنده به عنوان یک ایرانی از تنها چیزی که در جریان حضور این مردک در دانشگاه کلمبیا افسوس می خوردم این است که چرا میبایست که یک خارجی این حقایق را به این مردک حقیر بگوید، در جایی که این افتخار میبایستی که نسیب ما ایرانیان میشد.
به امید روزی که این دد صفتان را در پشت میله های زندان ببینیم
ایران هرگز نمیمیرد

تکسير ـ 9 اکتبر 2007

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Great, keep it up!

October 13, 2007
 

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Besyaar az maghaaleye in hafte mahzuz shodam. Vaaghe’an keh gol gofti va dor softi. Kaari keh ra’ise daneshgaahe Columbia kard mennate bozorgi-st keh bar gardane mellate iran nahaadeh ast. Hargez maa nemitavaanestim natijeh va t’siri raa keh sokhanaane vey (dar ‘eyne jodaa kardan mellat iran az hokumat) ruye jaame’eye amrika va donyaa gozaashte. bedast aavarim. In bozorgtarin tabligh va khedmati budeh keh beh mellate iran shod. va amma

inkeh in daastaan khod mahaki shod keh kheyli-haa maske khod raa bardaashtand va dar entehaa (siyah ruy shod ankeh dar u ghash mibud) raa didim va to ham besyar khub dar maghaaleh aavordeh-i.

Dr Parvin az LA mash’ghul jam’ kardane emzaa beh naf’e aaghaaye Bollinger ast.baa dru faraavaan hamintor khedmate Shokuh khaanom.

Z -12 October 2007

 

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Esmail-e azizam dorood,

man taa khaandan-e maghaaleh-ye shomaa khod raa kheyli tanhaa ehsaas mikardam.

I felt very lonely and angry at how stupid most of "us" are, really. No wonder the regime of junkyard dogs and chaaleh meydaan pimps has lasted as long as it has. ehsaas-e man daghighan hamaan chizi bood keh shomaa neveshdid. You can see my take on the whole Ahmadinejad-Bollinger circus here:

http://www.massudalemi.com/Blog/20070925.htm

Thank you for being a lonely voice of rationality and common sense in this sea of stupidity. And thank you for fighting. You will always have me on your side.

Massud

October 13, 2007

 

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نظريات خوانندگان سايت «ايران گلوبال»

آقای نوری علا گرامی
نوشته های شما همیشه تازگی داشته و سرشار از نکات آموزنده است. من از نوشته های شما آنقدر آموخته ام که حالا بتوانم به شما بگویم اشتباه می کنید!
"ما را خار می شمارد"؟ یا ما را خوار می شمارد؟ چرا نرنجیم وقتی این آدمکش را برای سخنرانی دعوت می کنند؟ چرا بیشتر نرنجیم وقتی که قبل از سخنرانی مدعو را احمق می خوانند؟ می خواهند قتل های او را موجه جلوه دهند؟ چهره ی مظلوم بگیرد؟ از بورژوازی مزورتر چیست؟ حتی وقتی که از شما تعریف می کنند باید بترسید. حالا برای پیشبرد برنامه هایشان یک تیر خلاص زن را برای سخنرانی دعوت کنند تا استفاده ی تبلیغاتی ببرند. اما در نوشته ی شما نکته ی مهمتری هم هست: در هر کدام از ما شغالی زندانی ست، باید مواظب بود. باز هم از شما می آموزم و باز هم متشکرم. سامان باربد

 

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Aaghaaye Saamaan-e Baarbod. Dar ta'eid-e ostaad Noori Alaa baayad a'rz konam keh shomaa dar talaash-e khod baraaye didan-e pichesh-e moo, az didan-e kohd-e moo baaz ndeheid

Dr. Omid Rahnemoud.

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نظريات خوانندگان سايت «ايرانيان دات کام»

 

Not necessarily

by Miz-abdol-azim khaneh Ghareeb (not verified) on Fri Oct 05, 2007 08:19 AM PDT

Although I welcome your point of view but you have to understand that Ahmadinejad did not come to USA to attend his own trial and this was not a deposition session. So, even when a convict comes to court it does not mean that the judge and presecutors can start insulting him.

The opposite of your statements are the demonstrations against the Shah back in early 70's when he visited the United States. Based on your theory what Iranians did -to insult their king in a foreign land was correct and based on your logic if they did what they did was correct then we got rid of the Shah, then how come we got the gift of Islamic Republic from the Russo-British alliance? What role did we play in this switch of cards?

So, it seems you advocate that if you don't like your governement then get on the band wagon with foreigners and assault your leaders when in foreign lands. How do we know which leaders to insult and which ones to applaud?

You did not provide a solution at all. You only told us that you are pro US politics towards Iran and you see or at least implied that USA and the West to be saviors of the land of Iran.

I disagree. You can hate your regime but still be civilized and give the man a chance to talk. Let the tyrants talk.....

 

True, But not for this Site

by A reader (not verified) on Fri Oct 05, 2007 08:32 AM PDT

Hopefully, Iranian.com will learn from this instructive post!

 

Very true Dr. Nooriala

by ardeshir keyvan (not verified) on Fri Oct 05, 2007 08:44 AM PDT

Very true Dr. Nooriala

 

Dr. Noorlia: Most excellent

by Anonymousee (not verified) on Fri Oct 05, 2007 09:24 AM PDT

Dr. Noorlia: Most excellent and original. Please write in English too for those of us who have hard time reading Persian. Thanks.

 

The fact is that Americans

by just me (not verified) on Fri Oct 05, 2007 09:35 AM PDT

The fact is that Americans or Europeans or any civilized democratic society would never perceive the comments made by a Colombia University professor as an insult to the whole Iranian nation..why would they? And why would we? the regime has done enough to show themselves as tyrants..it's true that the professor action was wrong but, I, as an Iranian citizen, i did not take it as a insult to me or to my country..

 

Too deep

by Radman (not verified) on Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:44 AM PDT

Dear Dr. Nooriala,

As a young Iranian, I believe you are still making the mistakes you have been making for the past 28 years. From what I understood in this article, you are so deeply drowned in your ideology that you have lost your national identity. What the president of Columbia University did was not due to his "opposition" to the Iranian regime. It was quite literally a lack of education and humane manners in regards to an invited guest who currently is whether you like it or not, the President and representative of Iran. Therefore, I believe to have the flexibility within an opposition to see the wrongdoings of your supporters is an important quality to have, which I believe in your case is missing.

 

Iranian behavior can be explained mostly based on their

by Traveler (not verified) on Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:13 AM PDT

I agree with the main theme: that is, when we associate with, or feel sorry for, a person, we are, either willfully or unconsciously, identifying with that person. This brings us to the central psychological and sociological issue of Iranian identity problem they are apparently experiencing.

It is also mentioned the method that most Iranians separate oneself from others and related rightfully this issue to the pre-modern thinking pattern. If we accept that historically Iran has been inhabited mostly by tribes and nomad tribes and even Iranian government had been formed and eliminated by various tribes until early 20th century, then Iranian behavior can be explained mostly based on their environment and upbringing. Well, this is another sociological topic for Dr. Noriala.

I also liked the passage stating that imperialism is not limited only to the USA…….

While I agree with the main points of the article, I like to mention that the dangerous propaganda-strategy that sometimes persistency is followed by the media, especially the electronic media, e.g., Fox News. Simply, the strategy is first symbolizing a person for an evil act or a series of evil behavior, then dehumanize that person. As a result, everything that is associated with that person is dehumanized in the eyes of the average readers or viewers, and deserves the worst consequences. Just as a foot note, we should not let that happen to Iran and Iranian---Ahmadinejad should not be a symbol of Iran and Iranian.

 

در این مقاله به

by J.Rashidian (not verified) on Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:07 PM PDT

در این مقاله به صراحت تاکید شده که احمدی نژاد و رژیم مردم ستیز او نماینده ایران و مردم ان نسیت و در نهایت میتواند نماینه بیگانگانی مانند امام زمان باشد.
این رژیم تحمل شنیدن عقاید مخالف خود را ندارد و این برخاسته از وحشی بودن و غیر متمدن بودن اسلامی ان است.
جامعه ای که در آن حقوق مردم رعایت میشود و مردم از رفاه نسبی برخوردار باشند نمیتواند یک جامعه اسلامی باشد، مردم در چنین جوامعی پیوسته حقوقشان ضایع شده است و در خواست ابتدائیترین حقوق دومکراتیک جرم محسوب میشود.
در این مقاله با کلماتی واضح هر نوع سازش با رژیم طرد شده است
فرهنگ کد خدا منشی مذهبی_فئودالی و یا نوع جدید تر ان, اپورتونیسم، که حاصل تاثیر
حزب توده در منش سیاسی بوده رسوا شده اند.

 

Too young

by J.Rashidian (not verified) on Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:29 PM PDT

Mr Radman,
As you mentioned "you are", too, "young" to understand the message of this article. If you understood Farsi, you would realise that the author does not consider Ahmadinejad "Iranian President", a "welcome" houseguest, but a "petty and cruel dictator" a psychopth, a criminal Islamist, a non-Iranian representative who can be for all these rightfully and deservedly denounced by any honest person in any place.

 

Mr. J.Rashidian

by Midwesty (not verified) on Fri Oct 05, 2007 01:28 PM PDT

Please tell us how you came to this conclusion that Ahmadinejad is a "petty and cruel dictator a psychopth, a criminal Islamist"?

 

Re: Midwesty

by jamshid on Fri Oct 05, 2007 03:37 PM PDT

you asked why is Ahmadinejad is a "petty and cruel dictator a psychopth, a criminal Islamist"?

Here is your answers, but first let's see what these words mean by looking at a thesaurus:

Petty: minor, subordinate, inferiror in rank. Isn't Ahamdinejad just a puppet of higher rank akhoonds?

cruel: vicious, brutal. Does Ahamadinjad represent IRI or not? Isn't the IRI committing acts of torture, execution, stoning, etc? Are these acts considered compassionate or cruel?

dictator: Need I make any comments on this one?

psychopath: Deranged, nutcase. Ahamdinejad regularly visits the 12th emam place of hiding! In his dreanged mind, he thinks his actions are hastening the coming of emam Mehdi.

criminal: See curel above.

Islamist: Is he not an Islamist?

There Midwesty, since you are such a retard, you had to spoonfed with the truth.  

 

ahmadinegad

by babak123 (not verified) on Fri Oct 05, 2007 04:19 PM PDT

i think the problem for iranain opposition who lives abord is that everyday they distance themselves from the reality in iran. they belive want they hear in edia and other opposition outlet, that is the reason they are all in such dispair. one of the best example is the opposition policy on iranian nuclear file. without the knowlwege of the popularity of the bomb in the people they start to say iran does not need nuclear industry, i have been to iran and it is popular, or ahmadinejad he got his support and american blunder in iraq has destroyed any sympaty for US. dr noorila is saying this government has invade iran, i think invation means somthing else such as america in iran, i think they look iranin and talk iranian.

 

Dear BABAK

by Majid on Fri Oct 05, 2007 04:54 PM PDT

Since you are the one who brought  the issue of "nuclear" crap up, let me ask you a question Sir!

Do you realy think what this guy is suggesting  that " energi-e haste-i hagh-e mosallam-e maast" and SOME people blindly repeat it after him, is a true statement?

If your answer is yes (since you obviously  know Iranians so good"!

Can you explain to my dumb mind , if freedom of speech is or is not a "hagh-e masallam"

How about freedom of press ? how about women's right ? jury in the justice system , security in the society and on and on and on...

Do you think if the "nuclear energy WAS "hagh-e mosallam-e maa" the government would not take it away from us ? like other "hagh-e mosallam" that Iranian people deserve?

Or it's Ahmadi nejad's "hagh-e mosallam"?

 

Islam has hate written all over it

by Islam is poison for Iran (not verified) on Fri Oct 05, 2007 06:27 PM PDT

http://www.sarafrazan.net/bahman%20jaazouyeh.htm

 

But there are no power stations

by Anonymousz (not verified) on Fri Oct 05, 2007 07:11 PM PDT

This technology is a 100-year old, outdated, and practically obselete Western technology. There are so many new advances in the area of nuclear technology so why is it the Islamic republic is not opting to invest in those? Why the heck the IR enriching uranium while there are no nuclear plants anywhere to be found?

Contrary to the IR's assertion, their nuclear program has nothing to do with generating electricity. There are no power stations in sight .The Iranian check list for civilian nuclear power has something significant missing, as the Guardian noticed on a tour of its facilities. Uranium? Check. Centrifuge cascade for enrichment? Check. National will to face down the global community to produce nuclear fuel? Apparently in spades. How about a nuclear power plant in which to use the fuel for civilian power? Oops. Iran Forgot to Build a Power Plant for Its "Peaceful" Nukes! (But MISSILES, It Has)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,,2137598,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=1...

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2816667.ece

 

Re: jamshid

by Midwesty (not verified) on Fri Oct 05, 2007 08:33 PM PDT

First of all I didn't ask you. Do you guys know each other? Is it like bunch of you circling around a computer at jamshid's Baghalli in Westwood and surfing through iranian.com racing one another on how to insult everybody? Couldn't you finish your comment without an insult? Never mind! Since you guys are all typical Tehranjelesians it doesn't make any difference to me which one of you replied. Let me ask. How have you figured out all these things that you said about ahmadi while you've been out of the country over past 30 years. Perhaps you've got all your insightful news from "Iran experts" on Fox News and CNN. Tell me something that I've never heard it before. Don't try to gargle their hot air. However if you promise me to be a good boy I'll tell you things about ahmadi that you've never heard it from anybody else.

 

Ahmadinejad is in right!

by Ali (not verified) on Sat Oct 06, 2007 01:15 AM PDT

Man yek Irani hastam ke arezooye man sarbolandie iran mibashad.
Irani abad und ghodratmand.

Ahmadinejad dar morde masaele hastei kamelan hagh dare wa man motmaenam ke aksariate mellat iran ba oo moafeghand..

dar dakhele keshwar ham moshkelati hast ke bayad ma iraniha khodemoon hallesh konim

wa be hich ahadonnasi rabt nadare.

ghorbane shoma
ali

 

Ahmadinejad

by Jahanshah Rashidian on Sat Oct 06, 2007 06:18 AM PDT

Mr. Midwesty

I do not know Mr. Jamshid because I live thousands of kilometres far from “Tehrangeles”, namely in Germany.

However, I accept his views and now add mines to answer your question:

Ahmdinejad is a by- product of both Islamism and lumpanism combined.

The fact that Ahmadinejad is son of a blacksmith and was probably brought up in a poor family is his only shield against the hail of facts proving his ideological deviation from his social class. His political carrier has nothing to do with his social background. There is no doubt that such a character would join any other far right racist, fascist and sectarian groups when Islamism were not available.  Hitler and Mussolini were also from poor milieus, but by contrast to their social background, unexpectedly turned back to their social origin by becoming devoted capitalist right-wing activities. Many other examples can be found throughout the history that son of a rich family belong to the left, Fidel Casrto, Che Guevara, Engels, Chu En Lai were typical examples.  Ahmadinejad’s personality disorder is not only due to his family background or his hideous looks, which could, at worst, cause a Complex of Inferiority. Ahmadinejad’s characteristic is another phenomenon, a social characteristic deeply anchored in religiosity. As such, he is first an Islamist and, often, liked to it, a lumpen, a German word used by Marx describing a political thug. Both Islamism and lumpanism led to his character formation. No specific class or background seems to generate more psychopaths than others. The psychopaths can be as good looking and clever as the next person with an Ahamadinejad’s looks. We see similar personality disorder by some other religious seniors of the IRI. For example, Ayatollah Khomeini, the founder of the IRI, was sociopathic. Despite of many advisors, he never learnt to conform himself to normal norms; his stiff glance, his dumb and mechanical gestures, the lack of his emotional traits in face, the week command of his rhetoric were all symptoms of his personality disorder. Islamic seniors like Khomeini, Rafsanjani, Khatami, Khamenei, Bani sadr, Soroush, Moein… are traditionally right, conservative and retrograde, but in a common sense, they are not considered lumpen, as Ahmadinejad. What distinguishes Ahmadinejad from them is his ridiculous lumpanism. The lumpanism is his most outstanding characteristic. This is not his only vice, but added to it his Islamism makes out of him an Islamist lumpen, a phenomenon which can be psychopathically more dangerous. Ahamadinejad’s Islamism, cannot offer plausible rationalisations to the real problems. This brings him into increasing conflict with the realities. Ahmadinejad’s lumpanism remains the main factor of his rhetoric lapses and odd attitudes.  His constantly deteriorating behaviour can be threatening even for his surrounding and we can witness more and more about the consequences—his maniac depression, his grandiose sense of self-important, his odd attitudes are quite obvious. Ahmadinejad is mentally disordered: he suffers from schizophrenia and effective narcissism. However, I believe that Ahmadinejad-phenomenon is a typical problem of collective mangle, namely the lack of democracy due to the long influence of religiosity. The mangle can always create a number of fanatics who are similar to Ahmadinejad-phenomenon. Ahamadinejad sees the imminent emergence of the Twelver Imam, the Mahdi, for whom since more than one thousand years Shiites wait. The Imam is expected to appear to set aright a decadent and wretched world. Ahamadinejad views himself the direct vassal of the Imam, being in permanent contact with him and working closely with him.  What psychopathically more dangerous seems is Ahmadinejad’s belief in his task to hasten the Imam’s reappearance. According to the Shiite sect of Hojjatyeh, to which Ahmadinejad belongs, the reappearance requires much destruction and bloodshed, so be it. The more ills in the world, the more he and his sect can hasten Imam’s reappearance. It is clear that Ahmadinejad is an Islamist thug with all typical symptoms of both Islamism and lumpanism combined, but he is inspired from a collective irrationality, he is politically a product of the IRI, and he is a perfect symbol of political Islam.

 Regards

J. Rashidian

 

Re: Mr. Rashidian

by Midwesty (not verified) on Sat Oct 06, 2007 09:12 AM PDT

Mr. Rashidian,

As Bollinger said clearly he has EXHIBITED all the SIGNS of a petty and cruel dictator. What you said is exactly in continuation of what Bollinger said. What you two have in common is that you’ve never met the guy before and trying to judge him based on his LOOK or through what you’ve heard from the media. As Ahmadi himself answered, your vaccination is an insult to the audience’s judgment and knowledge. People of Iran had to be completely out of their mind to elect a man with all the serious psychological symptoms that you mentioned and what it makes it even more ironic is that Iranians are even more stupid since they’ve seen his clone, Khomeinie, before and never tried to learn from the first experience. Bottom line, in your comment you have two supporting factors for your claims. One that Ahmadinejad looks like a dictator and whose image is most damaging than Hitler? I thank our Israeli friends for inventing and spreading this image against Ahmadinejad since Shimon Perez was the first one to notice the sign. And the other one is that he is Islamist and since he is Islamist, he becomes automatically a radical fundamentalist extremist. Thanks again to our Israeli friends we have no problem accepting this fact either. I want to ask you one thing. Have you tried to analyze Israeli leaders such as Sharon the same way that you’ve done Ahmadinejad? He is religious too. He is a fundamentalist also. And unlike Ahmadinejad he has Sabra and Shatila in his score card. Bertrand Russell, the famous modern philosopher, was denying the god for all his life, you probably have read his works. What strikes me the most is that when he was dying he was holding tight on his chest a Bible. Probably he was too suffering from schizophrenia. If you are not a psychologist and sociologist you are not in the position to criticize Ahmadinejad in the context of psychology or sociology. If you are, it doesn’t make you a good one if you try to judge him without studying him thoroughly. You did not study him thoroughly because your knowledge is weak and reflects what you’ve heard from the media and in your case you are the media. I’ve read your articles. Ahmadinejad and his family are coming from a small town near Tehran. They moved to Southern Tehran “Meydane Khorasan” where they have small community of migrants from the same town. This particular community along the native Tehranies in Meydane Khorasan, worked and lived around Tehran’s grand Bazaar. These guys since 1340s H.S. or 1960s been supporting Khomeinie long before has anybody heard about Khomeini. So this completely contradicts your fundamental claim that he is a “lumpanist”. He is from a right wing family and he is in right wing now. He’s been living materialistically poor and he still lives the same way. Unlike other Iranian president he hasn’t move to the northern Tehran yet. So if you excuse me I have a deck to paint. Regards

 

Mr. JR: Midwesty is one of

by Anonymousz (not verified) on Sat Oct 06, 2007 09:56 AM PDT

Mr. JR: Midwesty is one of the chief propagandists of the IR on this site and does it in a very subtle way by creating doubts and non-sequitur questions and answers. It's a very interesting method of propaganda often used to create distraction and diversion.
More on Propaganda different methods and techniques:

http://www-tc.pbs.org/weta/reportingamericaatwar/teachers/pdf/messagecon...

 

Do not live a lie!

by Shir va khorshid (not verified) on Sat Oct 06, 2007 10:00 AM PDT

Nothing good comes from jonub-shari, bakh-bargashte & mostazaf Ahmadi. He is a low class, poor & psycho (not to mention full complex). He is not an Iranian president; he is a puppet of moula Ali Khameni. Such a shame that we have to call him an Iranian. He is a disgrace to human race. I left Iran as a young girl but I am fluent in farsi (reading, speaking & writing). So, you do not have a right to "label" people just because they live away from Iran. Broun-marzee people know about all the sick policies & situation in Iran and are FREE to talk about it. Droun-marzee people are scared to talk about the current issues. Islamic Republic is killing freedom in Iran. Do not live a lie! Freedom is a right to choose for yourself & by yourself. Javid parcham shir va khorshid :)

 

The Subculture

by Kamangir on Sat Oct 06, 2007 06:01 PM PDT

Ahmadinejad is just one of the many millions living in Iran. They are simply the descendants of the many Arabic tribes that moved to Iran after the fall of the Sassanids. They may be considered Iranian, yes because they have been in Iran for the last 1400 years, however they do not represent Iran and are not persian at all.  Ferdowsi makes clear references to this group which he considers a mix of Tazian(arab) Mogols and persian. This group of people represent the arabo-muslim backward presence in Iran and it so happens that 'used' to have a very high concentration in southern tehran, but this not the case anymore, as for the last 30 years they have stablished themselves in the very best areas of Iran. They are very close to Omar, Hussain and Hassan and other arabs (don't tell them otherwise!!)and very unfortunately just as their arab ancestors did, they are really against Persian culture and the pre-islamic Iran (these are the same people who decided to bulit the Sivand dam and who have expressed publicly their disgust of pre-islamic Persian culture. They have tried to abolish the very few Persian and Iranian events we still practice by replacing it with arabo-muslim crap (look at the Iranian calendar, for instance...) Ahmadinejad belongs to Basora or Habashe, they do not belong to Iran. The arabic tribes stablished in Iran many centuries ago, did not dissapear, you can see them everywhere with heavy presence in southern tehran and their current leader is nobody but ahmadinejad (race of ahmed)

The great ferdowsi already noticed their presence and said: Ze Irano torkano tazian, nejadi padid ayad dar mian, na dehghano torko tazi bowad, sokhanan be kerdare bazi bowad.

 

Be toop nagoo hendoone

by Kamangir on Sat Oct 06, 2007 06:08 PM PDT

Your ahmadinejad and you still 'be toop migin hendoone'

Pakistan and India already got their own nuclear self-sufficiency long ago. Besides wanting an atomic bomb, the arabo-muslim in Iran want to build a road for their mehdi or imam zaman or whatever they call him. They're so dumb, that they have to kiss russian's asses to do the job for them. So yes! be proud of Iran and your ahmadinejade jonoobshahri.

Regards

 

Yes; They are part of Iran's

by IdentityCrisis (not verified) on Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:49 PM PDT

Yes; They are part of Iran's History. BUT, You and I who live long life outside ARE NOT!

Do I make sense!?!

 

The Subculture by Kamangir

by IdentityCrisis (not verified) on Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:57 PM PDT

The Subculture
by Kamangir on Sat Oct 06, 2007 06:01 PM PDT

Where did you come from to Iran - India or and unkown river bank ?

Give up these nonsense.

If you leave in the US, You are part of society and you need to uphold society's civil code. You naturally become part of that culture. The rest is racism and does not belong to modern civil society, unless you like to take the society back 2500years.

 

Listen to this man!

by Shadi Kamal (not verified) on Sun Oct 07, 2007 05:55 PM PDT

Please everybody, listen to this man with wide opened ears. He is putting his fame and honor on the line to tell us what most of our intellectuals are too timid to say it loud.
Thank you iranian.com for providing the audio file so that people like me who cannot read Farsi alphabet easily can benefit from Dr. Nooriala's words of wisdom. This has added a new dimention to your e-magazine, building a bridge between us Iranians who have grown up outside Iran and understand the language but have never has a chance to learn this difficult way for writing and reading it.

 

Well Said Mr. Noorialaa

by jamshid on

As always your articles spoke the mind of the majority of leaderless opposition to the IRI. Thank you.

 

RE: to identity crisis

by Kamangir on

Listen fellow: The ones taking back Iran to 1000 or 2000 years ago are your own friends.

Say hello to the half arab half mogol ahmadinejad

Sepas (not tashakor)

 

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